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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  joey jojo

  DD- seriously- did u take a course on how to be a condescending wanker?
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  joey jojo

  I actually dont know why so many people are completely hung up on ivermectin, as if it is the big, secret answer to the pandemic.

  As Rocketmans list points out, there are a lot of different drugs being used to treat the symptoms of covid, no one is stopping them from being used, whether they work or not. If a treatment is available to a doctor, Im sure they will try it.

  Maybe- just maybe, researchers were prioritising an actual vaccine- NOT merely treatments, and that is why research into other drugs- like ivermectin was secondary to getting a working vaccine.

  Now, after months and months, there is anecdotal evidence that some of these drugs may help, but you have to take off your conspiracy hat for a few minutes and read the data for what it is.

  For example, the information I've read about ivermectin being effectively used in Brazil is at best anecdotal for now. Some doctors say it helped for some and not for others. There are many factors when it comes to mortality, but If their death toll is an indicator, I would probably prefer the vaccine.
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  I'm now turned off by this site

  by purrpurr in

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  in one form or another i've been a member of this site for almost 10 years.

  in the past this was a great place for debate, news and support for ex jws.

  i logged on several times a day and posted several times a week.

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  joey jojo

  Big voices seemed to start during the Trump era and continue thanks to the pandemic.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  joey jojo

  Brazil uses a lot of ivermectin- hows it working out for them?
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  More lies from fake news.

  by mickbobcat in

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  news is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.

  the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.

  now its 130 and its the end of the world.

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  joey jojo

  Rivergang, there is evidence of global warming everywhere you look.

  A lot of the same people that don't accept the science are the people that are anti vaxxers, anti maskers anti 5g etc.

  If the earth's temp changes a couple of degree's over a century, what's the big deal they say?

  The big deal is that it only takes a couple of degree's to change the earth from being cold, to becoming an iceball. Or, going the other direction in temperature , a tolerance of a couple of degree's that drives extinction events.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  joey jojo

  DD said:

  "There would be no mass ICU issues if known, tested, and proven methods of prevention with decades of real testing had been implemented from the start."

  Exactly what treatments are you referring to here?
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  joey jojo

  Well DD, which is it?

  Was it better to lock down, or let covid rampage unchecked?

  Im referring not only to mortality rates but the sheer amount of people that would need hospitalisation and ICU support. Can you imagine the affect on supply chains, as anonymous pointed out, if uncontrolled amounts of people got sick?

  Its not rocket science, restrict movement == restrict spread of virus.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  joey jojo

  anon:

  "Delays to the supply chain because of lockdowns, unnecessary deaths as a result."

  You are right- there has definitely been collateral damage from lockdowns- no questions.

  But can you even begin to imagine the horrific scenarios in hospitals, even in first world countries, if there were no lockdowns and the virus was allowed to spread? The hospitals would be absolutely overwhelmed with sick and dying. Not to mention the strain on society in general?

  The collateral damage from NOT locking down would be exponentially worse.
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  Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  hi all.. i'm 42 years old.

  i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.

  how many jabs have you had?.

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  joey jojo

  Fully vaxxed with pfizer.

  Similar to you, I had flu like symptoms after second jab.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  joey jojo

  DD- in your post, when referring to unvaccinated people- do you mean that the unvaccinated people being discussed here have already had covid and therefore are safe?

  Or is it talking about unvaccinated people that also have no natural immunity because they havent been exposed to the covid virus?